So Andrew, how many people are there in your family? Erm, there are … well there are three really. I have … I have an older brother, he's about two years older than me, and I have a younger brother, he's about a year and a half younger than me. Mm, so you're the middle child then? Yeah I'm the middle child … A lot of people say that middle children have the worst time. What do you think about that? It's, ah, it depends, erm, I think, erm, there's, ah – you end up, I suppose, looking up to your older brother, ah, as a kind of a leader, you look to him for guidance … That's quite interesting. I've got an older brother and I definitely don't look up to him … I have an older sister and I don't look for gui … to her for guidance for sure, no. I think, erm, when I was young I did, yeah. Definitely to my older brother, yeah. And your older brother does certain things first … first to ride a bike, pass a driving test, first to university. Ah … so maybe they get more attention than the middle child. Yeah, I suppose. And I suppose parents kind of spoil the younger children because they've had the toughest with the older children and then by the time they get to … for me, there's five children in my family … so by the time my parents got to the fifth child they were kind of ready for her to just let herself go. That's not the experience that … that I had, my parents were quite liberal with … I have one sister who's only a, a year and a bit older than me, and, ah, my parents were quite liberal with both of us and we grew up … Oh right, you were lucky. … kind of as friends, yeah, it was great. Mm, I don't know, and did you have lots of, do you think everyone in your family has a lot of friends, or is it different depending on which, which, erm … No, I think it's, it’s quite similar. I suppose my sister maybe has a, a wider network and perhaps I have a slightly smaller network but, of very close friends maybe … . But I don't think it's connected to position in the family at all. Mm. What about only children, I mean none of us are only children but … No, well … Do you think they need more friends or less friends? I don't know about needing friends, but I do think that sometimes they … they can need a lot of attention. I think maybe if they've been the sole … yeah. But they … they're used to the attention. Exactly. I mean, I guess though, it depends on how much attention they get. Do all parents give, you know, if they have one child, do they all give them loads of attention or just only children? Are they quite lonely and do they want more attention? I don't know. I suppose it must, must be the case for some but I, I … I don't know anybody like that.