So, did you go and see it? See what? Million Dollar Baby … you remember, you said you were going to get the DVD … Oh, yes, Million Dollar Baby … you were right … it was quite good. Quite good!? Come on, it was really good. I think it’s a brilliant film. Do you? I do like Clint Eastwood but I suppose I’ve never really been that into films about boxing. OK, but it’s not really about boxing is it? Isn’t it? But one of the main characters runs a boxing gym, and the other wants to be a boxing champion. That’s all true, but there’s a lot more to it than that. There are so many different themes running through the film. I mean, I thought the whole theme of risk was so interesting. Risk? Well, you know at the beginning of the film, one of Clint Eastwood’s most promising boxers leaves him just as he has a chance to make the big time. Oh yes, that’s right. Doesn’t he go off with another promoter or something? Yeah, after years of training in the gym with the Clint Eastwood character. And actually, it’s because Clint won’t take a risk with him. He won’t put him up for a big championship fight – and the other promoter will. Exactly. The Clint character plays it safe. He’s just too cautious. And then this young woman turns up and she turns out to be a really good boxer – and then he faces another risk. You mean, he’ll train her up and then she’ll leave him. Exactly – and that nearly does happen, doesn’t it? Oh yes, that’s right, but she does stay with him in the end thank goodness! Then there’s a kind of emotional risk he takes too. You remember how he keeps writing to his daughter and never getting any replies? He’s upset about something, which we never really find out about. Mmm. I couldn’t work out what all that was about. No, it’s not really clear. Anyway, I think there’s a growing emotional connection between him and the woman boxer, and because of whatever’s happened with his daughter it feels like there’s a big emotional risk too. I see what you mean. I hadn’t really looked at it like that before, but now you say it … Actually, it reminds me of another Clint Eastwood film, Gran Torino. Have you seen that? Oh no, I haven’t. Why, is that about risk too? Well, it’s very different, but yes, I think there’s quite a lot about risk. Basically, it’s about an old guy called Walt – played by Clint Eastwood – who is an old war veteran. He’s quite bad-tempered and bitter about the world. His wife has just died, he’s fallen out with his family and doesn’t get on with his neighbours or anything. The only thing he likes is his car – a beautiful Gran Torino – which he mostly keeps in his garage. You know, he likes his car, but he doesn’t like, or trust, people. So, where’s the risk? Well, he gets to know his neighbour – a teenager originally from South-east Asia. He gets to know him by chance, really, when the boy tries to steal his beloved car. The risk then comes – the emotional risk, as you say – when Walt decides to become friends with him and help him in various ways. Help him? Yes, he gradually takes the boy under his wing in a way. He teaches him a few things about life and helps him get a job. It’s a risk, partly because of the violent gangs around, but I think mostly it’s a risk because the old man has to confront his own prejudice and racist ideas and get close emotionally to someone who previously, he had felt angry towards. Mmm. It sounds interesting. It’s a really, really good film. I’d definitely recommend it. In fact, I think it’s the film I’ve enjoyed most this year. I think Clint Eastwood is an amazing actor – and he’s also an incredible director. He directed and acted in both Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino, didn’t he? They’re such great films. Yes, well, I definitely want to see Gran Torino. It sounds like such an interesting film. I think I’ll try and get the DVD of it tomorrow.