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Presenter: Hello, I'm Dima, and today we're travelling to South Africa to find out what
young people there think about the state of democracy in their country. We're
joining Lisa and Pumalele, two students from what has always been the home
of South Africa's black intellectual elite - the University of Fort Hare in the
country's Eastern Cape:
Lisa & Pumalele:
I think our democracy is in transit. It's a work in progress.
The majority of the people who vote [the] ANC into power are the working class and yet they
do not really have a clue on what is going on within the ANC.
Presenter: Fort Hare was founded in 1916, and it's the oldest historically black university
in Southern Africa. Throughout the years, Fort Hare graduates have come from
as far North as Kenya, Uganda and Nigeria, and many of them - including
Nelson Mandela - enjoyed prominent careers. But what about today's students?
What are their political views at the time when the country is preparing for an
election later this year? Let's listen to Lisa who tells us what she thinks of the
state of South Africa's democracy. As you're listening, try to catch the words
and phrases she uses to express these two ideas: 'something that isn't finished
and needs more effort put into it before it's complete' and 'sometimes, every
now and again'. Also listen out for these two words: 'to consolidate', meaning
'to make something stronger and more certain'; and 'integrity', which means
'being honest and having strong moral principles'.
Lisa:
I think our democracy is in transit. It's a work in progress, and our government and the ANC
have done tremendous and good work to try to consolidate our country into this new state.
But as a student and as a young person, I do feel disappointed here and there about the kind of leaders that we select. The person that should lead this country is someone that knows what
integrity is.
Presenter: Lisa says the democracy in South Africa is not yet well-established, or, as she
puts it, 'it's a work in progress'. 'It's a work in progress' - a useful expression
you can use when talking about almost anything that's not yet finished or
complete. And which expression did Lisa use when she wanted to say
'sometimes', 'on occasions'? It was a very colloquial phrase, 'here and there'.
'Here and there'. And don't forget the two other words we asked you to listen
out for: 'to consolidate', that's 'to make something stronger and more certain',
and 'integrity', meaning 'being honest and having strong moral principles'.
Sting
Presenter: Well, Lisa is certainly not the only student at Fort Hare who is quite open about
their political ideas. Our next interviewee, Pumalele, is just as eager to express
his views. Let's now listen to him as he tells us more about some policies of the
ruling African National Congress, or ANC. How happy is he with them? As
you're listening, try to spot these two things: first, the phrase that refers to
working people who make up the majority of the population; and second, the
colloquial expression meaning 'to be completely unable to guess or understand
something'. Ready? Here is Pumalele:
Pumalele:
I feel we are being betrayed in the sense that the policies that the ANC is using are much more
focusing on the economy growth, the GDP and so on and the people at the grass roots they do
not have access to basic needs like food. The majority of the people who vote [the] ANC into
power are the working class and yet they do not really have a clue on what is going on within the ANC.
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