Callum: And this is Talk about English, live from London. In today's programme we focus on England and Journey around the country
Jackie: We visit a monument in London
MONUMENT TASTER 308, 309, 310, 311, and we finally made it up to the top. What a spectacular view we have from up here
Callum: Discover how people feel about the city of Manchester
MANCHESTER TASTER I'm new to Manchester, I moved from London nearly a year ago and I think it's a much friendlier and less stressful place to live.
Jackie: And we also have your comments, a quiz and much more coming up in today's Talk about English
Callum: Our guest today is Amanda Smyth from Visit Britain
(BRIEF CHAT ABOUT AMANDA'S ROLE AND THAT OF VISIT BRITAIN)
Callum: Jackie, one reason we're talking about England today is that we've been travelling around the country on a road-trip
Jackie: Yes last week we went to a number of different cities in England, Birmingham, Manchester, Sheffield and Cambridge. We met lots of teachers and students and talked to them about our website.
Callum: What kind of reception did you get?
Jackie: We got an excellent reception and the people we met also helped us out with a project we are running on journeys.
(Explains a bit about the Journey project)
And we can listen to one of the entries now –
ANDREA and ROMAN JOURNEY My name is Andrea, I come from Switzerland, from the Italian part of Switzerland. I'm Roman, I'm from Switzerland too, but from the German part of Switzerland. And I think we really didn't know what to write and then we chose to write about the last journey of the life, about the death The title of the poem we wrote is; The Last Journey of the Life Are you ready for the last journey, how can you prepare for it? Can you? Everyone is going to make this journey, it can be unexpected, too early but sometimes too late.
Your life is the judge and at the end you receive the bill. It can be expensive or cheap; it depends on your behaviour, your age, your destiny. Do you feel pain? Is there a door? A lift? A corridor? Is there a connection to another world, to other people, to another life? Perhaps it's just the end of life. Perhaps it takes a long time to reach the other side. Perhaps it will be there in a second, or never. But what comes after? Will there be everybody there? Imagine to be in a beautiful garden with sweet fruit and delicious food. Perhaps you will land in a dark, hot room with flames and you can't go back Because tihis is the beginning of the end. Do you want to know where you will end? Yes? No? You will discover it!
Jackie & Callum respond to poem.
Callum: And next week we'll be visiting more cities around England – this time we are going to Oxford, Bristol, Bournemouth and Brighton and you can find out more about our journeys and the cities we've visited by following the road trip link on the webcast page.
Jackie: And because the team is away on the road trip there won't be a webcast next week. So remember, no webcast next week, but we will be back on November 9th .
Callum: Now I want to read an email we had in, this is from Noelia, in Buenos Aires, Argentina
I'm writing to congratulate you on the excellent programmes about film you presented.
I learned about the webcasts by chance, one day surfing the net in June, and now I listen to you every week. I'm very interested in British accents and dialects I was wondering whether you speak like that (so clearly!!) all the time or only for the programme so as to be understood easily. Then, I suppose you speak a sort of RP accent, am I correct?
(JACKIE AND CALLUM QUICKLY COMMENT)
It happens to me that I can understand you perfectly, but it gets complicated with an American accent or an Australian one. It's unbelievable the amount of English varieties that exist. It would be great if you could deal with "Accents" one week.
Callum: Well Noelia, thank you very much for your email, today, we are going to be talking a little bit about English accents.
Jackie: Well, one accent in particular. a Birmingham accent – or a 'Brummie' accent some might say. 'Brummie' is an informal word to describe someone or something who comes from Birmingham – Britain's second biggest city. And it was one fo the cities we visited last week.
Callum: The Brummie accent is loved by some, but hated by many. In surveys, many people say it's the most annoying accent there is. A lot of people make fun of it.
Jackie: But some people in Birmingham are fed up with this and defend the way they speak. Carl Chinn is Professor of community history at Birmingham University. Why is his Brummie accent important to him?
Carl Chinn Fro me being a Brummie is all about my identity, it's about who I am as a person, where I grew up, where I was born, where me mum and dad come from and the people to whom I belong. I would never dream to say that my accent is better than anybody else's but it's certainly no worse
Jackie: Is important to him because it part of his identity – part of what makes him who he is. Professor Carl Chinn says not everyone hates the accent there are some people who really like it. What kinds of people?
Carl Chinn Outsiders who don't come from England when they hear the Brummie accent many of them say it sounds warm and endearing.
Jackie: He says people outside of England, who come from different countries often like the Birmingham accent and find it warm – friendly and endearing, which means pleasant, or nice – endearing.
Callum: Now let's hear from Joan Hunter. She works for a radio station that broadcasts to the large African Caribbean community in Birmingham....and says it can be funny when some people start to speak with a local accent....what is it exactly that she finds amusing?
Joan Hunter I heard a Polish girl with a bit of a Birmingham accent coming on. I think she's only been here like three years. I suppose it depends on who you're with and who you're living with and the people that you're talking with all the time, every day and so therefore you know it's bound to come in. But when you've got a bit of an accent because you're from a different culture or country and then the Brummie accent's like attached to it, it's kind of funny.
Jackie: Joan says she finds it amusing when people who have moved to Birmingham from a different country start speaking with a Birmingham accent – it creates an interesting mix – for example, some people will speak English with a Brummie and Polish accent – perhaps that could be called a Birlish or Poliingham accent!
Callum: Professor Carl Chinn says there have always been lots of different kinds of Birmingham accents – not just one. What are some of the different kinds?
Carl Chinn There are a variety of Brummie accents today. There were in the past, there was always a middle class Brummie accent, there was a lower-middle class Brummie accent, there were a variety of working class Brummie accents. So there's always been varieties of accents. I think they've multiplied. But the Brummie accent will survive
Callum: Carl talks about middle-class, lower-middle class and working class accents. These all refer to accents spoken by people of different social statuses – for example middle class people in Britain are generally seen to have a bit more money and better jobs than people who are working class or lower class. One thing is for sure though, Carl is convinced that however many varieties of it there are, the Brummie accent is here to stay.
[Brief discussion – Accents – snobbery? Class issue? RP associated with middle and upper classes, look down on other accents as 'uneducated'? Much more so in past but now?]
Callum: Introduce some comments about accents
Diego, Sao Paulo, Brazil. I've never been to England before, however, I am really passionate about its history and heritage, if one day I visit this small island probably would feel living among queens, kings, princess..and of course, not forgeting the haunted castles. What else do I know about England? Like in all countries, we have in England many characteristic ways to speak English and, I think the most well-known is from Birmingham in which they speak "Brummie". Soyoung, Korea I was in Manchester for 9 months.. To be honest, I was hurt that I couldn't understand what people said. There is a very special accent in Manchester. It was really hard to understand people's speaking when they said. But now I'm back in Korea I'm missing the Mancunian accent.
Paul, China I haven’t been to London before. But if I have enough money, I’ll definitely go there as I really enjoy speaking English. I would also like to make friends that have a British accent. Perhaps, one day, I'll have a c
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