Neil: Hello and welcome to Talk about English, I’m Neil Edgeller.
Yvonne: And I’m Yvonne Archer.
Neil: Coming up in the programme, we’re continuing the topic of our busy lives.
Yvonne: We hear from people who say they spend too much of their time working.
VOICE It’s seen as… you’re a good worker if you stay behind and work overtime, whereas you could be more efficient if you went home on time, didn’t have to have your meals at your desk rather than a proper lunch break and recovery.
Neil: We talk to a man who thinks being idle, or not willing to work too hard is a good thing.
Yvonne: And we hear from Bassam, a listener to Talk about English in Egypt. He tells us his favourite expression in English.
BASSAM SALAH Hello, I’m Bassam. I really like “until we meet again.” because this expression you can use it both ways: positive and negative. You can say ‘until we meet again’ – see you my dear friend, or you can say it to an enemy.
Neil: That’s all coming up in today’s Talk about English. Presenting the programme with me is Yvonne Archer. How are you today Yvonne? Are you feeling overworked?
Yvonne: (Replies)
Neil: It’s time for the first of today’s Word Facts.
WORD FACT 1 WORD FACTS Today’s word is overwork, overwork. O-V-E-R-W-O-R-K Overwork has eight letters but only six sounds. It has three syllables and can be a verb or a noun. But be careful because the stress changes. In the verb we stress the third syllable – to overWORK, but when it’s a noun we say OVERwork. For example, too many people overWORK these days, or lots of people complain of OVERwork these days. WORD FACTS / AND THAT’S A FACT
Yvonne: So overwork is our word of the day and there’ll be more word facts throughout the programme.
Neil: I’m pleased to say that we’ve been joined in the studio today by Dan Kieran who’s a journalist and Assistant Editor of a magazine called ‘The Idler’, which argues that spending as much time as you can not working is better than living your life at the office doing something you don’t really like. Thanks for coming along.
Dan (Replies)
Neil: You’ve just heard someone complaining about overwork. Do you think we’ve got our attitude to work all wrong?
Dan: (Replies)
Neil: We’ll be hearing more from Dan later in the programme.
Yvonne: But now it’s time for another word fact.
WORD FACT 2 WORD FACTS As we’ve already heard, overwork can be a noun or a verb. Overwork, noun “Ah, another story in the paper about overwork. Apparently it can make you really ill.” As a verb, it can be used in two ways. First as a transitive verb. The meaning is that one person or organisation forces another to work too much: “He’s a terrible boss. He overworks his staff all the time.” And now overwork, intransitive verb, which you may not hear so often: “Poor Kate, she overworks so much she hardly sees her children.” And it can also be used as an adjective: to be overworked: “I’m so overworked at the moment. I’m desperate for a holiday.” WORD FACTS / AND THAT’S A FACT
Neil: Well, as you have heard, the word ‘overwork’ carries a rather negative meaning – people aren’t very happy about overworking. Now, these days we hear a lot in the media about people trying to improve what we call their
‘work/life balance’. This means they are trying to spend less time working and more time doing things that they really want to do, like their hobbies or spending time with their family and friends. Another expression which has become common is ‘long hours culture’. People say that it is our working culture to spend longer at work than we really need to so we can impress our bosses. So, we went out onto the streets of London to ask people about their work/life balance and if they think there is a long hours working culture in their office. Dan, what do you imagine people are going to say?
Dan: (Replies)
Neil: Well, let’s just listen and find out.
VOICES No I don’t find that I have enough time to do the things that I want to do out of work.
There’s always very little time and too many things to be done.
That’s precisely why I’m working part-time. I’ve made that change in my work pattern so I can have more time for myself.
I work shifts so I can’t have any regular commitments that fall on any particular day or evening of the week.
Personally, yeah, I’d like to have more days off or, I don’t know, shorter working days, but then by comparison it’s probably not that… well it’s not exactly slavery, obviously, although sometimes it comes very close to it.
The weather is to blame. The weather is horrible most of the time. There is nothing better to do but work.
We should be more like mainland Europe: less set working hours, more time to enjoy your family and your social life
It’s seen as… you’re a good worker if you stay behind and work overtime, whereas you could be more efficient if you went home on time, didn’t have to have your meals at your desk rather than a proper lunch break and recovery.
Neil: Well, some interesting points of view there. Generally they thought that they spent too much time working and not enough time doing the things that they really want to do. In other words, they think they’ve got their work/life balance wrong. Dan, are you surprised by what you heard there?
Dan: (Replies)
Yvonne: Plenty of people are saying they want to spend more time doing their own thing. So why don’t they?
Dan: (Replies)
Neil: One of the women said she’d started working part-time so she can have more time to herself. Do you think more people are starting to follow your way of thinking?
Dan: (Replies)
Yvonne: And an interesting theory from one woman who said the reason people work such long hours in Britain is that the weather is bad and we can’t think of anything to do. What do you think of that idea?
Dan: (Replies)
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Neil: But now…Time for more word facts
WORD FACT 3 WORD FACTS Words connected to ‘overwork’. We often hear the adjective ‘underpaid’ used in the same sentence as ‘overworked’. It describes someone who isn’t paid enough money for the work they do. A: “I see teachers are going on strike again.” B: “Well I’m not surprised. They’ve so overworked and underpaid.” ‘Underpay’ can also be used as a transitive verb “They underpay their workers so much it’s not surprising they have a problem finding new employees.” But unlike ‘overwork’, ‘underpay’ is not used as a noun. Another word connected to work which also begins with ‘over’ is ‘overtime. It’s a noun used with ‘do’ or ‘work’. “I’m doing a lot of overtime at the moment. I just haven’t got the time to finish this project.” It also means the payment a person receives for working extra hours. “It’s great. I get twenty pounds overtime for every hour I work after 6.” WORD FACTS / AND THAT’S A FACT
Neil: Well, it’s certainly true here in Britain that some professions always complain of being overworked and underpaid. But is it always the case that overworked people are underpaid? Dan, what do you think: do overworked people tend also to be underpaid?
(All discuss)
Neil: And now time to take an international view of our topic as I talk on the phone to a Talk about English listener
BASSAM SALAH N: Hello, who am I talking today? B: Hello, I’m Basssam, a twenty-five year old Egyptian lawyer. I’m working as a litigation lawyer in Cairo. N: We are talking today, Bassam, about overwork and I want to ask you do you think you are overworked in your job? B: I think so actually. As a litigation lawyer I don’t have clear working hours, I work nearly every day to somehow late at night. N: Is that typical in Egypt? Is there what we call a ‘long hours culture’? B: Actually it’s a matter of globalisation. Egypt as you know was an agricultural country, so now because we’re affected by globalisation - to be a modern country people work too hard. N: Do you feel as if you have enough time to do the things you want to do when you are not working? B: I love reading novels and I love swimming but these two things the most I love you need a lot of time. N: OK Bassam, I wonder now can you tell me what your favourite expression is in English? B: I think one of the best expressions I really like is ‘until we meet again’ because this expression you can use it both ways: positive and negative. You can say ‘until we meet again’ – see you my dear friend, or you can say it to an enemy. N: OK Bassa